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Subject: RE: {GRP} Re: [Ahle-Quran] What EID?
Date: Fri, 8 May 2015 06:31:34 -0400

We Desi Muslims are more divided on Islam than the Arabs who do not indulge in such discussion and over-research of a complete Deen (5:3) and publish lot of books and articles to over take each other. We are in the habit of appreciating such big Mullas who publish lot of books on Islam and lecture us 'heavily and continuously' without break to impress us. Quran was bestowed for the guidance of entire humanity by reading and understanding and certainly not to corner it for simply reading, reciting and make Hifz of Quran and that too without understanding to get exploited.  This is not Tilawath which means to read, understand and follow the entire Quran not just five pillars cornered by our Mullas to build Masjid and Madressahs to make money and live a Hud Haram lazy life.
 
Just read the translation of Quran in your own language to understand Islam correctly and reject boldly such fabricated and bogus man-written Hadiths not in accordance with the Quran. As for the points raised let us know the views of our Alim, Javed Ghamidi.
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Subject: Re: {GRP} Re: [Ahle-Quran] What EID?

In the name of Quran you are denying Quran. Allah s.w.t. ordered us to obey ALLAH's messenger s.a.w. and eid is part of that. 
Eid is not following jews and christians or Hindus and zorastrians.
It is opposing all of them in practice.  No music no dancing, just 2 rakaat of salaath. Show me anything like that in other religions. What is harmful in 2 rakaath of salaath?

As for moonsighting, virtues of moonsighting are also spelled out and the practice of moonsighting  of Rassoolullah s.a.w. is well documented. If he were in Tokyo today, he would look for moon there on the 29th of the month and go by the moonsighting of Tokyo.

As long as we sight the moon and arrange for that,  there is no war based on moonsighting.  Different places may have different dates, as we already have different dates in different parts of the world.

When it is Friday in Tokyo, it may still be Thursday in San Francisco.  The date line makes the difference.  No one fights over this difference.

So do not create problem when there is no problem. Unity is in sticking to a principle.  We cannot go by Makkah Mukarramah, as when it is Zuhr there, it may be Assr or Maghrib in other parts.  When it is Friday there, it may be Thursday somewhere else!

Bottom line, In the name of Quran do not create doubts in Quran.  Every Muslim is from Ahle Quran.  There is no need to make a group Ahle Quran to declare others as not ahle Quran.

 
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Subject: {GRP} Re: [Ahle-Quran] What EID?


Yes, you are right brother.
As per Quran, in Islam there is no place for celebrating any festival of Ramadan or Hajj (Eid Al Adha - Bakraid) either.

Celebrating of Ramadan and Bakraid Eid can be defined as an ancestral customs tradition which might had been possibly copied either from the People of Polytheism or Yahood-o-Nasara (Christian & Jews).

If Quran can't convince to stop following any customs tradition then None can.

The Ayat in Quran with to regards to Moon Sighting is revealed for the purpose of counting Months and Years but definately not for celebrating any Eid in the name of Ramadan or the Month of Hajj.
In fact, the Day which Ends with Good Deeds would be the real Eid for a True Muslim.

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Sent: Monday, 4 May 2015 1:31 AM
Subject: [Ahle-Quran] What EID?

 
أَعُوذُ بِٱللَّهِ مِنَ ٱلشَّيۡطَـٰنِ ٱلرَّجِيمِ
بِسۡمِ ٱللهِ ٱلرَّحۡمَـٰنِ ٱلرَّحِيمِ
The biggest joke is what Muslims have done to the real Islam. In the Islam of ALLAH taala, there is no EID kind of festival to celebrate and waste all of the efforts putforth in the month of Ramazdaan or after hajj. 
 
Following the footsteps of Jews, Christians and other lost nations are to confirm just one thing and one thing only....... Shaytaan is pleased with your performance.
 
Please ALLAH not Shaytaan.
Follow alQuraan.
وَهَـذَا كِتَابٌ أَنزَلْنَاهُ مُبَارَكٌ فَاتَّبِعُوهُ وَاتَّقُواْ لَعَلَّكُمْ تُرْحَمُونَ 6:155
6:155 And this is a Book which We have revealed as a blessing: so follow it and be righteous, that ye may receive mercy.
Syed Ali,
Muslim.

 

Date: Sun, 3 May 2015 15:33:56 -0400
Subject: {GRP} Reviving Islaam Lecture 032 : Global Moon Sighting in the Quraan
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AsSalaam O Alaikum (Peace be always with you. AMEEN.)
بسم الله الرحمن الرحيم
In the Name of Allah, Most Gracious, Most Merciful
Global Moon Sighting in the Quraan
By Irshad Mahmood – Director, Siraat-al-Mustaqeem Dawah Centre

Celebration of Eid and starting of Ramadaan has become a BIG Joke in the Global Muslim World, who are widely divided and celebrating their Eid, or starting their Fasting on 2 to 3 different days. Don't forget that there is only one Sun, one Earth and its one Moon. Thanks to Allah, Fridays are not decided by moon sightings otherwise it could be real mess.

This is a Critical Issue. We need to remember that on the Day of Eid, Fasting is prohibited (Haraam). So we need to understand it with True and Sincere Love for Allah and with a broad mind.

AAlso keep in mind that the very First Lailatul Qadr was according to one Global Islaamic Calendar from Maghrib till Fajir in Makkah for the whole world, who are sharing same night with Makkah and the Day of Arafah 9th Dhil Hajj who are sharing same day with Makkah, at the time of Hajj is to unite the Muslim Ummah on one Global Islaamic Day, for only one thing: the Love for Allah alone on one Global Day of Arafa, i.e. 9th Dhill-Hajj Globally by sharing same day like sharing Friday globally.

Those who are Sharing Same Night with Kabah, Makkah must celebrate their Eid and Ramadaan same together, (Ref: Al_Quraan_097.005). Global Moon sighting must be observed around Makkah. At the time of Magrib (Sunset) in Makkah then people in the far east, who have not yet started their Fajir time, are sharing the same night. Also before time of Fajir at Makkah people on the far west, who have started their Maghrib (Sunset) time, are sharing the same night. Remember: Kabah in Makkah is Center of the Earth.

We may never Unite Muslim Ummaah, if we celebrate Eid/Ramadaan etc. on different days and also have different Worshipping Methods in this modern age with advanced technology. We must acknowledge all Muslims around the Globe.

We have seen, I am Right, you are right, we all are right. BUT it didn't work and Ummaah is being butchered for centuries. The Great Mistake of a human is that "I am Right" (100%correct). If he is right, it is very good, BUT if he is wrong then it is WORST and he will never ever correct himself and might go to hell forever.

One must keep in his mind is that he could be wrong at some point and so he always needs to keep getting good knowledge by Listening to all BUT following the truth.

Allah already mentioned the solution of moon sighting in the Quraan very CLEARLY that it MUST be according to Makkah Islaamic Calendar globally depending upon Very First Visible Birth of the Moon near the House of Allah (Kabah for the whole world, NOT according to any specific region/area/house/ or backyard, and we must take guidance from the Quraan to perform Hajj for all Muslims around the Globe and not very specific to one region, do fasting in the month of Ramadaan and celebrate Eid, GLOBALLY and follow oneMakkah Islaamic Calendar globally in the light of Quraan (book of guidance) (Ref: Al_Quraan_002.189, 003.096, 006.096, 010.005).

They ask you (Muhammad {Peace be Upon Him}) about the (visible) phases of the moon! Say, They provide a timing device for the Global People, and Determine the Time of HAJJ (in Makkah for the whole world Globally), and it is not righteousness that you should enter the houses by back doors, but righteousness is this that one should guard (against evil); and go into the houses by their (main) doors and be careful (of your duty) to Allah, that you may be successful, (Al_Quraan, { Surah Al-baqara} 002.189).

In the above verses Allah is clearly mentioning that the Phase of the Moon is to Determine the Time of HAJJ and Do Not create your personal calendar, rather build one unified Global Islaamic Calendar which must follow Makkah Islaamic Calendar.

Remember: Before the advancement of modern technological when communication was very slow even in Saudi Arabia different cities could have been celebrating Eid and Ramadan at different days like in Pakistan Muslims observing Eid and Ramadan on three different days still at the beginning of 21st Century. Universe is expending as per the Quraan (Ref: Al_Quraan.051:047) and thanks to Allah by the advancement of modern communication we can use modern tools like telescope for more accuracy and we already have very accurate data for moon sightings in Makkah, we can inform rest of the world in advance and celebrate Eid, Ramadaan etc., Globally according to Makkah Islaamic Calendar, regardless of whether in the far east in India, Pakistan, Bangladesh, Japan, China, Malaysia, Indonesia or Australia or New Zealand etc., people have not seen the crescent moon or in the far west in North America (USA, Canada or Mexico etc.) and South America (Brazil, Argentina, Peru, Chile etc.), WE MUST FOLLOW MAKKAH AND OBSERVE MAKKAH ISLAAMIC CALEDER for Global Muslims Unity. Yes we must use modern technology to observe Moon Sighting in around Kabaah in Makkah the first Qibla and the first House of Allah, since any modern technology which benefits humanity is Halaal, and we must announce it using modern technology as well.

Also keep in mind it will be hard to see the crescent moon in cities due to lights and pollutions etc. We should listen and observe to those in far remote areas near Kabah, Makkah, where there is less pollution, or even better, take advantage of modern astronomy. Not only Global Warming BUT Global Dimming and other unknown factors may be causing difficulty in sighting the Crescent Moon. Global Dimming was discovered just after 11-SEP-2001, when all the US flights were grounded for three days: http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article15809.htm

With the availability of Modern Technology, we must calculate crescent moon sightings and also physically verify moon sighting with the naked eye around Kabah in Makkah, and inform Global Muslim World and no one should look for the Moon Sighting in their backyard individually in the far north or south or east or west, instead Follow Makkah. It is not for your region in the far north or south or east or west, instead it is to perform HAJJ globally according to Makkah Islaamic Calendar. Every Month must start with the NEW Crescent MOON (Very First Visible Birth of the Moon) in around Kabah in Makah and announced it Globally. Invisibility of moon before New Crescent is like it is in mother's womb and is not yet born.

Years, Months and Days are GLOBAL while Salaat Time is Local. Also the day JUMA is GLOABL while its prayers time is Local, and is similar to New Year on 1st January, but its breakfast, lunch and dinner etc. times are local.

Allah told to face Makkah means follow Makkah and get guidance from Makkah for Hajj, Umrah, Salaat, Ramadaan and Eid etc., and do not divide Religion Islaam, since those who Divide their Religion and break up into Sects, thou hast NO part in them in the least: their affair is with Allah, (Ref: Al_Quraan_002.125-129, 002.130-138, 002.142-144, 002.149-150, 002.189, 003.095-097, 003.103, 003.106, 006.096, 006.159, 010.005).

As an example to understand, if suppose Prophet Muhammad (sav) is alive today, and he has to start Ramadaan or celebrate Eid today, then which day will you do start fasting or celebrate Eid?

If in Kabah, Makkah (First House of Allah) and in Masjid-e-Nabvi in Madinah Munawwarah people start Ramadaan or celebrate Eid today, then which day will you do start fasting or celebrate Eid?

We must unite on ONE method of worship of Prophet Ibraheem (Peace-Be-Upon-Him), and we must take guidance from the Quraan (True Book of Guidance), Kabah in Makkah and must not divide ourselves on all religious issues including Salaat, Zakaat, Hajj, Umrah, etc., (Ref: Al_Quraan_002.001-005, 003.095-097).

If you are not following Makkah to Establish Salaat, Celebrate Ramadaan, Eid, Hajj etc., then you are dividing Religion Islaam and your matter is with Allah, (Ref: Al_ Quraan_002.125-129, 002.130-138, 002.142-144, 002.149-150, 002.189, 003.095-097, 003.103, 003.106, 006.096, 006.159, 010.005).

IF QURAAN CANNOT CONVIENCE YOU NOTHING WILL

Read Al-Quraan, the Miracle of Miracles and free from contradictions and errors

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